#1706517 - 02/02/1704:38 PM
Re: CT General Assembly January 2017 proposition to BAN the USE, mfc and sale of fishing tackle containing LEAD!
[Re: Don P]
Such a hard thing - studies result in statistics - statistics can be manipulated, misrepresented or simply falsified all to make a point, but at the same time objective science is all you have to credibly base a decision.
Personally I find it hard to believe that lead fishing weights that have been used for over a hundred years are suddenly impacting birds adversely, but I'm open to being shown otherwise. In the meantime I've sent my letters to the local reps in Hartford & suggest everyone else do the same.
#1706534 - 02/02/1707:21 PM
Re: CT General Assembly January 2017 proposition to BAN the USE, mfc and sale of fishing tackle containing LEAD!
[Re: Don P]
#1706590 - 02/03/1709:00 AM
Re: CT General Assembly January 2017 proposition to BAN the USE, mfc and sale of fishing tackle containing LEAD!
[Re: Don P]
For anyone interested in saying something but not sure where to start - that's the link to the state's website to ID who your representative is and how to contact them.
#1706593 - 02/03/1709:15 AM
Re: CT General Assembly January 2017 proposition to BAN the USE, mfc and sale of fishing tackle containing LEAD!
[Re: Don P]
Even if a diving bird eats a split shot, it just craps it out and any of the minimal amount of lead that gets into its blood stream quickly gets diluted and washed out of its system.
This is the same reasoning they banned lead shot while waterfowl hunting. The only lead that kills birds is from lead shot fired from a shotgun....which has already been banned.
Just to keep it real Don, the mechanism for lead shot is the same as sinkers. Birds INGEST the shot, it is ground in the gizzard, and the finely ground lead slurry is now absorbed. Looks like your avian digestion physiology is as good as your duck identification skills .
#nonsense only if you don't understand what you are talking about.
#1706597 - 02/03/1709:35 AM
Re: CT General Assembly January 2017 proposition to BAN the USE, mfc and sale of fishing tackle containing LEAD!
[Re: Don P]
Still haven't seen a bird that can ingest a 4/0 bass jig and live to be poisoned by the lead before the hook kills him, or TroutTracker's 10lb downrigger.
I'm not contesting the physiology of HOW a bird could ingest, absorb & ultimately be poisoned by lead - I just want to see the science to show that it's actually occurring on a large enough scale to be an issue.
#1706598 - 02/03/1709:45 AM
Re: CT General Assembly January 2017 proposition to BAN the USE, mfc and sale of fishing tackle containing LEAD!
[Re: onthewater102]
I just want to see the science to show that it's actually occurring on a large enough scale to be an issue.
There is plenty of science backing up the toxicity pathway to loons on inland lakes gobbling up tiny split shots. My daughter worked on this all last summer.
As far as I know. there is no science that shows a toxicity pathway in the marine environment.
I believe we have seen this bill before in the CT Legislature.
I'm very doubtful it has any legs. . . . . . however. People should contact their legislator. It NEVER hurts.
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#1706599 - 02/03/1710:00 AM
Re: CT General Assembly January 2017 proposition to BAN the USE, mfc and sale of fishing tackle containing LEAD!
[Re: Don P]
""Happy Talk" . . . . . Because it has worked so well thus far"
"It is not necessary to change; survival is not mandatory" - Edward Deming
"Unless we start to focus everything on this, our targets will soon be out of reach" - Greta Thunberg January 2020
"I spent most of my dough on booze, broads and boats and the rest I wasted" - Elmore Leonard.
Team Man Made Climate Change is Real.
"Such change demands on our part a serious and responsible recognition not only of the kind of world we may be leaving to our children, but also to the millions of people living under a system which has overlooked them" - Pope Francis September 2015
#1706606 - 02/03/1711:11 AM
Re: CT General Assembly January 2017 proposition to BAN the USE, mfc and sale of fishing tackle containing LEAD!
[Re: Don P]
Here we see facts misrepresented, likely to drive hyperbole:
Granted, even a 25% toxicosis rate is sufficient to warrant action - why blow the issue out of proportion by including "suspected" cases with verified cases in the final reporting?
Same report gives us a more practical solution - limit the use of lead in terminal tackle less than an inch wide in any dimension. Done. Easy. Landing us at a point that is a far cry from 100% lead ban - but an appropriate measure to address the real problem.
#1706626 - 02/03/1702:03 PM
Re: CT General Assembly January 2017 proposition to BAN the USE, mfc and sale of fishing tackle containing LEAD!
[Re: Tod Osier]
Even if a diving bird eats a split shot, it just craps it out and any of the minimal amount of lead that gets into its blood stream quickly gets diluted and washed out of its system.
This is the same reasoning they banned lead shot while waterfowl hunting. The only lead that kills birds is from lead shot fired from a shotgun....which has already been banned.
Just to keep it real Don, the mechanism for lead shot is the same as sinkers. Birds INGEST the shot, it is ground in the gizzard, and the finely ground lead slurry is now absorbed. Looks like your avian digestion physiology is as good as your duck identification skills .
#nonsense only if you don't understand what you are talking about.
I have inhaled lead fumes since I was probably 7 years old pouring sinkers with my Dad, and since about 3 years old biting split shot as I fished and handling lead bank sinkers. I think we can ALL AGREE there are no ascertainable negative side effects of inhaling and ingesting lead in my case. #CaseClosed!
#1706627 - 02/03/1702:42 PM
Re: CT General Assembly January 2017 proposition to BAN the USE, mfc and sale of fishing tackle containing LEAD!
[Re: Don P]
I have inhaled lead fumes since I was probably 7 years old pouring sinkers with my Dad, and since about 3 years old biting split shot as I fished and handling lead bank sinkers. I think we can ALL AGREE there are no ascertainable negative side effects of inhaling and ingesting lead in my case. #CaseClosed!
""Happy Talk" . . . . . Because it has worked so well thus far"
"It is not necessary to change; survival is not mandatory" - Edward Deming
"Unless we start to focus everything on this, our targets will soon be out of reach" - Greta Thunberg January 2020
"I spent most of my dough on booze, broads and boats and the rest I wasted" - Elmore Leonard.
Team Man Made Climate Change is Real.
"Such change demands on our part a serious and responsible recognition not only of the kind of world we may be leaving to our children, but also to the millions of people living under a system which has overlooked them" - Pope Francis September 2015