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#1282178 - 01/07/11 07:04 PM Power Auger Rules
MadPhish Offline
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Loc: Cheshire, CT
When a lake listed in the CT fishing guide is listed with the phrase "Use or possession of internal combustion engines is prohibited". Does this apply to gas powered ice augers during ice season?
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#1282203 - 01/07/11 08:21 PM Re: Power Auger Rules [Re: MadPhish]
EGGNOG Offline
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I certainly hope not or I will have to assume the position!





















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#1282215 - 01/07/11 08:45 PM Re: Power Auger Rules [Re: MadPhish]
macattack678 Offline

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Hmmmmmmmmm.

"Good decisions come from experience. Experience comes from bad decisions."

"Great fishermen are not born that way.....They become so through a lifetime of neglecting other things in their lives."

"Don't try to explain it. Just nod your head. Breathe in. Breathe out. Move on.

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#1282223 - 01/07/11 09:15 PM Re: Power Auger Rules [Re: macattack678]
Paul D. Offline

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My take is that it is not in the lake, or in the water, and it doesn't hafta be registered. If someone says no, does that mean an electric auger is out???

Our philosophy has always been to be respectful of the neighbors and locals. If it is a little pond down in a hollow, we always use only hand augers. If there are residences close by we try not to run the power auger too early or late in the day. Big public lake, we make swiss cheese.

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#1282512 - 01/09/11 04:19 AM Re: Power Auger Rules [Re: MadPhish]
Buck Offline

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It does on Ball Pond. The rule is no motors of any kind including gas or electric ice augers, ATVs, and snow mobiles. It is enforced by the local PD and Encon.
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#1282518 - 01/09/11 08:22 AM Re: Power Auger Rules [Re: MadPhish]
Blaine Offline

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We'll have to wait for EnCon to weigh in here but it was my understanding that the rules that state no gas motors DOES NOT apply to augers UNLESS it is a town ordinance. If it is printed in the anglers guide, that is a state mandated rule, not the town so you should be OK. But to 100% sure, you need to check with the town.

We get asked all the time at the shop, that was the way I remember the explanation...
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#1282560 - 01/09/11 01:55 PM Re: Power Auger Rules [Re: MadPhish]
Buck Offline

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It is a New Fairfield town ordinance for Ball Pond.
That said, these rules issues are usually discussed within the stakeholder groups before they become law. The town(s), lake authority, local politicians, various advocate groups and the DEP (boating division, inland fisheries) all offer an opinion which is negotiated and then an ordinance is offered up to lock the rules in that everyone agrees on. It is rare that something is imposed on a unilateral basis.
So when you go to the Ball Pond launch it says "no motors" period. It may not be what the DEP would do by themselves but it is what the town and the other stakeholders wanted due to some problems that happened in the past and the DEP supported the ordinance because the pond is only 88 acres and there is Squantz Pond and Candlewood within a few miles where you can run most anything you want.
This is why virtually every body of water in the state seems to have its own set of rules and as Blaine says above you need to know what rules are in place for every little spot you fish.
Seems like a hassle but without this dialogue and negotiation local stakeholders would push for total closure of "their" waters. This is how stickers for Candlewood has evolved, basically an effort to limit who uses the lake.
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#1282919 - 01/10/11 12:19 PM Re: Power Auger Rules [Re: MadPhish]
EnCon Police Offline

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There is no easy answer for this one......

Generally the restrictions that you see in the Boaters Guide that prohibit the use of internal combustion engines are restricted by boating regulation. If this is the case then the only way you would be restricted from using a gas powered auger is if you hung it on the back of a boat and tried to use it as an outboard.

HOWEVER.....if the restriction is based on a town ordinance that prohibits the use of internal combustion engines under noise control, air quality standards or water pollution control (gas spilling in the water...)then you are stuck. You would not be able to use a gas powered auger on those water bodies.

You need to do a little research if you are not sure about the lake or pond you want to fish. If you see that there is a restriction in the Boating Guide then you should contact the town hall and determine if there is a town ordinance in addition to the state regulation that carries the prohibition from just boats to all engines.
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#1282926 - 01/10/11 12:33 PM Re: Power Auger Rules [Re: MadPhish]
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Skip, do you know what category the new propane-powered augers will fall into?

In one sense, it's still a combustion engine. But on the other hand, it burns cleaner, quieter and there is no fuel that can spill into the lake.
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#1282956 - 01/10/11 02:11 PM Re: Power Auger Rules [Re: Mitch P.]
EnCon Police Offline

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Originally Posted By: Mitch P.
Skip, do you know what category the new propane-powered augers will fall into?

In one sense, it's still a combustion engine. But on the other hand, it burns cleaner, quieter and there is no fuel that can spill into the lake.


They would still be considered internal combustion engines. If a lake/pond has a restriction then the only augers that could be used are hand-powered or electric. Unless someone wants to invent a wind driven auger, that would be allowed biggrin
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