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#398022 - 10/19/04 03:50 AM Re: Political Discussion: One Thread Only!
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#398023 - 10/19/04 05:05 AM Re: Political Discussion: One Thread Only!
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I read an interesting essay in mondays usa today.It can be found at www.americanrespect.com ,click on read the essay.
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#398024 - 10/19/04 10:22 AM Re: Political Discussion: One Thread Only!
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Hey.......this is no fun. I never got a chance to read Nu2salts comment about my wife.

It was deleted.


Anyone care to paraphrase!?!?

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#398025 - 10/19/04 12:02 PM Re: Political Discussion: One Thread Only!
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Buck,

(I will try to be brief.)

I respectfully disagree.

This and the other document I posted before prove that in 1978 Kerry was discharged from the "THE US NAVAL RESERVE", nothing more and nothing less. He was HONORABLY DISCHARGED FROM THE ACTIVE DUTY in 1970.

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March 17, 1969 The policy of Coastal Squadron One, the swift boat command, was to send home any individual who is wounded three times in action. After sustaining his third wound from enemy action in Vietnam, Kerry was granted relief under this policy.

Early April, 1969 Kerry departs Vietnam

April 11, 1969 Kerry reports for duty at the Military Sea Transportation Service, U.S. Atlantic Fleet in Brooklyn, NY.

January 1, 1970 Kerry promoted to (full) Lieutenant

January 3, 1970 Kerry requests discharge

March 1, 1970 Kerry’s date of separation from Active Duty

April 29, 1970 Kerry listed as Registrant who has completed service
Kerry remained on the Navy Reserve duty until 1978, when he was HONORABLY discharged from the Navy Reserve.

Even state side he was on the the Navy Reserve duty longer than Bush was in the National Guard.

You still didn't answer my question about Bush's record.

Was the retired Lieutenant Colonel Albert C. Lloyd Jr., the former Texas Air National Guard personnel chief, lying through his teeth when he said:

"(Bush) took a chance that he could be called up for active duty. But the war was winding down, and he probably knew that the Air Force was not enforcing the penalty. . ."
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#398026 - 10/19/04 12:18 PM Re: Political Discussion: One Thread Only!
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Attention Right Wingers!

Please ignore this post. It is exclusively for Liberals and Moderates. \:D

\'Catastrophic Success\': The Strategy to Secure Iraq Did Not Foresee a 2nd War.
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#398027 - 10/19/04 12:22 PM Re: Political Discussion: One Thread Only!
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Kerry is a war criminal

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"Our leaders are stupid, they are stupid people," "It's just very, very sad" - Donald Trump 2011

"With all of the hysteria, all of the fear, all of the phony science, could it be that man-made global warming is the greatest hoax ever perpetrated on the American people? It sure sounds like it." - JAMES M. INHOFE

"Most meteorological research is funded by the federal government. And boy, if you want to get federal funding, you better not come out and say human-induced global warming is a hoax because you stand the chance of not getting funded." - WILLIAM GRAY

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#398028 - 10/19/04 12:27 PM Re: Political Discussion: One Thread Only!
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jon h,

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Originally posted by JFM:
"...what an idiotic statement."

"There are various medications that can calm you. Prozac and drugs similar to that would help your hostility and anger. You need to get it under control, otherwise, you will continue to think unclearly."
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#398029 - 10/19/04 12:28 PM Re: Political Discussion: One Thread Only!
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Attention hunters and gun owners!

Please read this post, no matter your political affiliation.


John Kerry Wants to Ban Guns in America

Friday, September 10, 2004


John Kerry`s two-decade long U.S. Senate record of opposing Second Amendment rights makes him the most anti-gun presidential nominee in history! Here’s the proof.

FACT: Kerry co-sponsors a bill that would ban all semi-automatic shotguns and detachable-magazine semi-automatic rifles, a gigantic step toward bringing Australian-style gun control to the U.S.1

FACT: Kerry says, "I think you ought to tax all ammunition, personally, I think you ought to tax guns."2

FACT: Kerry has voted nine times in favor of banning semi-auto firearms.3

FACT: Kerry has voted for a Ted Kennedy amendment to ban most center-fire rifle ammunition, including the most common rounds used by hunters and target shooters.4

FACT: Kerry has voted to close off hundreds of thousands of acres of the California Mojave Desert to hunting.5

FACT:Kerry has voted to hold the highly regulated American firearms industry legally responsible for the illegal acts of violent criminals.6
FACT: Kerry was one of only 18 Senators to oppose the Firearms Owners` Protection Act, which ended alarming abuses being committed under the 1968 Gun Control Act.7

FACT:Kerry was one of only 29 Senators to vote to prohibit gun manufacturers from discharging debts created by the reckless lawsuits filed by municipalities.8

FACT:Kerry has voted to allow BATF to conduct unlimited warrantless inspections of FFL holders.9

FACT: Kerry has voted to criminalize legal sales between private individuals at gun shows.10

FACT: Kerry has voted to impose penalties of a year in prison and a $10,000 fine on an adult if a juvenile steals a firearm from him, and then merely displays it in a public place.11


FACT: Kerry has voted to force many small firearms dealers out of business, which would have impacted both the availability and price of guns, particularly in rural areas.12

FACT: Kerry has voted 11 times to force law-abiding citizens to wait to exercise their Second Amendment rights. He voted to keep the federal waiting period after the National Instant Check System was in place.13

FACT: Kerry voted twice to eliminate the Civilian Marksmanship Program.14

FACT: Kerry wants to silence gun owners` voices. When NRA sought the same exemption from campaign finance rules that news organizations have, Kerry called that effort "hijacking America`s airwaves."15

FACT: Kerry commended the Million Mom March for their march on Washington that included calls for gun owner licensing, gun registration and other restrictions on law-abiding gun owners.16

FACT: John Kerry has a 100% voting record with, and earned the endorsement of the Brady Campaign (Formerly Handgun Control, Inc.)—a group that says you have no right to own any gun. And, he repeatedly earns the support of PETA and the Humane Society of the United States—groups who openly want to ban all hunting in America.

If elected president, Kerry will pack the U.S. Supreme Court with Dianne Feinstein/Chuck Schumer/Ted Kennedy-selected anti-gun activists who believe you have no right to own any firearm.


Defend Firearms. Defeat Kerry.
Vote November 2.

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"Our leaders are stupid, they are stupid people," "It's just very, very sad" - Donald Trump 2011

"With all of the hysteria, all of the fear, all of the phony science, could it be that man-made global warming is the greatest hoax ever perpetrated on the American people? It sure sounds like it." - JAMES M. INHOFE

"Most meteorological research is funded by the federal government. And boy, if you want to get federal funding, you better not come out and say human-induced global warming is a hoax because you stand the chance of not getting funded." - WILLIAM GRAY

"The gods do not deduct from man's allotted span those hours spent in fishing" - Babylonian proverb
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#398030 - 10/19/04 12:31 PM Re: Political Discussion: One Thread Only!
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Jon h.

So when someone hunts down and kills an armed combatent during a firefight it's a war crime, and when the same person sais they will do it to terrorists it's not a credible claim?

Man, you guys are blinded by something.

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#398031 - 10/19/04 12:37 PM Re: Political Discussion: One Thread Only!
jonh Offline

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Registered: 03/23/02
Posts: 12597
F John Kerry flip flops on that issue too. In the same debate he says that the war in Iraq, is the wrong this the wrong that blah blah blah. Ten minutes later he says he will hunt down the terrorist wherever they are and kill them.

OK, great. But Mr. Skerry, the terrorists are in Iraq. Wouldn't that then make it the right place, and the right time? Make up your mind! Al Swahari or whatever the f his name is, is in Iraq pledging allegiance to OBL (whom I believe is most likely dead). Wouldn't you agree that 80 to 90% of all terrorist acts in the last 6 months have been going on in Iraq. Fighting the war in Iraq makes sense. It makes sense to the majority of Americans. Would you rather fight the war here? The liberals cut intelligence funding immediately after the first attack on the WTC. I guess they would rather fight that fight here.

F John Kerry cannot have it both ways. Pick one side of the argument and stick with it.

Militant Bluefish Jihadist

"Our leaders are stupid, they are stupid people," "It's just very, very sad" - Donald Trump 2011

"With all of the hysteria, all of the fear, all of the phony science, could it be that man-made global warming is the greatest hoax ever perpetrated on the American people? It sure sounds like it." - JAMES M. INHOFE

"Most meteorological research is funded by the federal government. And boy, if you want to get federal funding, you better not come out and say human-induced global warming is a hoax because you stand the chance of not getting funded." - WILLIAM GRAY

"The gods do not deduct from man's allotted span those hours spent in fishing" - Babylonian proverb
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