That reply was so idiotic it makes my hair hurt. Rebuttal is clearly pointless.

Hopefully your traitor never gets up to the plate.

I also hope you have a good psychologist ready for your first therapy session on wednesday.

Opinions vary!

You must be one of those name callers who Phil Barton referred to who cannot back up their views with substance. I have re read my reply and it makes perfect sense to me.

Kerry told the truth in 1971, with good motives and intentions. He stuck by his convictions even at personal expense (his discharge), he had no motive to aid the enemy, and it did not profit him in any way.

Ice called him a "murderer" for doing what the government sent him to Vietnam to do, but he considers Bush a patriot for sending more young Americans to do the same thing in Iraq that Kerry did in Vietnam.

What part of this do you not get?

Unnecessary. I have survived four years of this idiot, I'll survive four more, if necessary. In fact it may not be necessary, either way. Read on.

Also excerpted from "American Dynasty" by Kevin Phillips:

"In addition to the quadrennial presidential election, a second more remote means exists for removing a chief executive over a rising perception of war-related abuses. Professor Raoul Berger was trenchant in his 1973 classic Impeachment: : "In our own time, the impeachment of President Truman, apparently for his conduct of the Korean War, was suggested by its staff to the Republican high command. There have been reiterated demands for the impeachment of President Nixon, arising out of dissatisfaction with his program for disengagement from the war in Vietnam. President Kennedy concurred with Attorney General Robert Kennedy that if he had not moved to expel Soviet nuclear missiles from Cuba at the time of the confrontation with Khrushchev, 'he would have been impeached.'"

"In the summer of 2003, as public unhappiness with apparent prewar deceit rose in the United States and Britain, voices on both sides of the Atlantic- lonely ones, to be sure- invoked this drastic remedy. John Dean, of onetime Watergate notoriety, opined that "if Bush has taken Congress and the nation into war based on bogus information, he is cooked." In Britain, Labour MP Malcolm Savidge told a U.S. interviewer that should allegations prove true, "that would clearly be a more serious issue than even Watergate" and could "fit into the definition of high crimes and misdemeanors which we in Britian used to have as a basis for impeachment, and which, of course, you still have as a basis of impeachment." Scott Ritter, a former UN weapons inspector in Iraq, an ex-Marine Major, and registered Republican, urged George W. Bush's impeachment for lying to Congress. Florida senator Robert Graham, a former chairman of the Senate Intelligence Committee, also touched vaguely on the possibility of impeachment."

So again, hope springs eternal, regardless of what happens on Tuesday or thereafter in courtrooms across America, or in the Capitol in January!

Why Kerry Fears ‘Stolen Honor’

Christopher Ruddy
Thursday, Oct. 21, 2004

John Kerry fears you will see “Stolen Honor: Wounds That Never Heal.”

His campaign has devoted a huge amount of resources – and even risked increasing interest in the documentary – to stop Sinclair Broadcast Group from airing it on television.

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Sinclair is a large station group, with 62 stations, but its reach covers only about 25 percent of the U.S. market – a fraction of the almost total reach of the big networks: CBS, ABC, NBC and Fox.

So, what is Kerry so worried about?

After watching the film, you can understand why.

For starters, “Stolen Honor” offers a compelling indictment of John Kerry as a man and as an American. This is powerful stuff. Any reasonable, independent American would likely be swayed by it.

This election could be so close that every vote will count. Kerry has to pay attention to what Sinclair will air in battleground states where it has stations, places like Charleston, W.V.; Cincinnati, Columbus and Dayton, Ohio; Madison and Milwaukee, Wis.; and Pensacola, Tallahassee and Tampa, Fla.

Kerry cannot risk this.

This past summer the Swift Boat Veterans for Truth launched their first TV ad – including fellow vets who criticized Kerry’s activities as a naval officer in Vietnam. The ad caused a hubbub and Kerry blew it off.

But then the Swift Boat Vets ran an ad featuring former POWs alleging that Kerry betrayed them and his country with his anti-war activities.

With that charge Kerry’s lead over Bush evaporated – and the Swiftees became a national sensation.

The issue of Kerry’s Vietnam activities has been a blur in the minds of Americans. All the men in his boat, save one, stand by his account, while almost everyone else who was there says Kerry is a liar.

But what is not a blur is what Kerry did after he returned from Vietnam.

Kerry, as we know, became one of the major leaders of the anti-war movement.

That story has not been fully told – and “Stolen Honor” opens the window for the first time.

Kerry thought that after decades had passed people would forget. He even brazenly tried to play off his Vietnam War experience as the main selling point of his campaign.

But some people have long memories, included the POWs, many who spent over five years in brutal imprisonment that included regular torture.

Kerry was not the cause of their imprisonment, but as 17 of these men aver in “Stolen Honor,” Kerry gave aid to the enemy when he, a decorated war hero, accused American soldiers of having committed war crimes, including burning villages and killing babies.

The POWs remember Kerry because he apparently was oft-quoted by their Vietnam captors.

Kerry had made a name for himself in America for his anti-war activities, and in communist Vietnam he became a national figure. In fact, to this day, Kerry is lionized as a hero in the country’s war museum.

Today, this same man is on the doorstep of the White House and trying to gain entrance. He wants to be commander in chief.

But the men who remember him, who have no political ax to grind, do not want us to forget what young John Kerry did.

One is James Warner, a POW who won two Silver Stars. Warner and his family remember Kerry well, because it was Kerry who contacted Warner’s family as he was suffering in a Vietnamese prison. Kerry pressed Warner’s family to denounce the United States’ war effort.

And then there is Steve Pitkin, a 20-year-old veteran in 1971 who is featured in “Stolen Honor.” Pitkin now says Kerry pressured him to make up stories of atrocities when he testified during Kerry’s Winter Soldier hearings.

Clearly, Kerry is afraid Americans may see this film and that is why he has ordered his campaign to launch a massive 11th-hour effort to stop this film.

Sinclair was the major target. Since it announced its plan to broadcast the film, Sinclair has been hit with a barrage of negative media attacks. Democrats – 18 senators – demanded the FCC intervene and stop the airing of the program. Kerry’s campaign wrote to Sinclair and demanded they not show the program.

Sinclair took other beatings as well. Stock analysts have trashed their stock – costing the company more than $100 million in market value. One of the major law firms of trial attorneys even threatened to launch a major shareholder lawsuit. A coalition of liberal groups began a massive effort to contact Sinclair advertisers to pull their ads.

The gutsy Sinclair is sticking to its guns and will air portions of “Stolen Honor” this Friday. Still, the whole film has yet to be shown to the American people.

As Kerry’s team was hitting Sinclair, two frivolous lawsuits suddenly were flung against Carlton Sherwood and his production company, Red, White and Blue.

Kerry’s campaign also lashed out when a small movie theater in suburban Philadelphia sought to show the film this past Tuesday night. The Kerry campaign sent an e-mail to local supporters calling them to action. Calls poured into the theater, and legal threats caused the owner to cancel the showing.

When Carlton Sherwood came to the theater anyway to hand out free DVDs to those who came and found a locked door, he was also greeted by pro-Kerry goons who were their to rough up him and his supporters. The police had to be called to clear the area.

Is this the America we know?

As several radio hosts noted to me, Michael Moore’s film was shown throughout the country in major theaters. There was no objection from Republicans – despite the fact that it was filled with hate, distortions and outright lies.

But a 43-minute documentary cannot be shown on TV or anywhere.

And the real American heroes who appear in the show and expose the real John Kerry have already become the targets of media assassination.

“Stolen Honor” offers more than insight into John Kerry. The drama that has unfolded around the efforts to show Americans this film offers a picture of how America is changing. We can see from this episode the type of place America will become if John Kerry makes it to the White House.

Kra-Cee, You seem particularly ornery today; more so than usual. Do you have the mother of all hangovers? Too much of "the Beast" in you, hence bringing the "Beast" out of you!

Just slip into your SS uniform for Halloween. That always makes me feel better, Mein Gruppenfuehur. And sing a song. "Springtime for Hitler, and Germany. Winter for England and France....." "Don't be shtupid, be a schmarty; come and join the Nasty Party...

i have read many post from People for Kerry and many post from people for Bush which was the reason for the thread so i thought.

I have also seen many post from people just complaining about the thread----WHY, No one has asked you to read any of the material here. The internet is full of material that i don't care for so i don't read it, am i wrong, should i read some of it and then complain about it?
we all should be thankful that there can be a thread like this started, i'm will to bet that in years to come, people in America won't be able to express their felling about political figures.