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#397012 - 10/01/04 03:55 PM Re: Political Discussion: One Thread Only!
Crabmaster Offline
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Registered: 07/22/02
Posts: 2612
Bush is a crummy orator, but then again, ......(damn, nobody's been as bad as W!)
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#397013 - 10/01/04 08:04 PM Re: Political Discussion: One Thread Only!
Mitch P. Offline



Registered: 05/04/01
Posts: 31839
I held out as long as I could... :rolleyes: \:\)

It’s evident that the Bush and Kerry supporters just see things very differently. There is no changing that fact.

No President is going to think the way you do on each individual issue -- whether it’s the war, the environment, or the economy. Knowing that, I look for character and leadership ability in a President to govern looking at the big picture of the U.S. in today’s insane world. To me, Bush is clearly the better man. That’s just the way I see it. That's just my opinion, and how I feel. I can relate to him when he talks. I simply can’t relate to Kerry.

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I love how people (mainly Kerry supporters) cried about my Bush logo on the front page. You said I sent an inconsistent message by cutting politics out this spring, yet I posted a political logo on the homepage. I think I explained myself adnauseam on that. (In a nutshell, this is a private website, so live with it.) However, OK, I’ll accept your criticism and live with it. But to say Kerry doesn’t send an inconsistent message -- and on things more important than a fishing website, no less -- is laughable!!! That guy is all over the map. Surely, you see it when he talks? He’s no leader. He says what people want to hear. Heck, bring back Clinton!

For those who hate this political thread, don’t worry. I’ll keep the politics to just one thread. It will be easy for you to ignore.

Ok, now for a just a little bit of trash talking…

Kevin, I'll single you out for posting some really ridiculous comments (i.e., "...if BUSH opens his stupid mouth and a turd doesn't fall out he will win the so called debate.) It really diminishes anything else you have to say. Stick this in your ever-changing stupid avatar collection ... :p

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#397014 - 10/01/04 08:57 PM Re: Political Discussion: One Thread Only!
jwjoseph Offline
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Registered: 08/15/03
Posts: 25
I THINK THIS IS CHUM BUCKET TIME. MITCH THEY GOT TO YOU, SMILE.ARTIFICAL ALL THE WAY YOU HAD A GOOD TIME TODAY WITH MY BROTHER. TO BAD YOU DID'T LOSE ANY PLUG'S.
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#397015 - 10/01/04 09:01 PM Re: Political Discussion: One Thread Only!
Baitrunner Offline
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Registered: 04/12/02
Posts: 1366
But, but, but....I wanted to be singled out for making stupid comments, Mitchie-poo! Reckon I'll just have to try harder!

Nothing on those debates that made me desire "Scary" Kerry over Mr. Bushie; I merely felt that "Scary" handled himself rather well.

Little tidbit I just heard: Mr. Bush was apparently exhausted from visiting hurricane victims, hence his tired appearence. A plausible explanation. But I'll be damned and dipped in butter before I disagree with our beloved CTF "commander in chief", Mr. Mitchie-poo .

"I think, that all right-thinking people, are sick and tired of being told that they are sick and tired of being sick and tired. I, for one, am not. And I'm sick and tired of being told that I am!"
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#397016 - 10/01/04 10:06 PM Re: Political Discussion: One Thread Only!
CTFisher23 Offline
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Registered: 09/21/03
Posts: 1266
I'm taking my avatar collection and going home! \:D
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#397017 - 10/01/04 11:33 PM Re: Political Discussion: One Thread Only!
Trooper_Bri Offline

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Registered: 12/08/02
Posts: 5845
Loc: Smellington
I dont recall seeing anything stated in CTF guidelines about using political avatars. Nor did i see any hash over the few that have been using them out here.
Doesnt seem like such a hard corner to think around, does it ??

Slow fishing is better than no fishing.
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#397018 - 10/02/04 12:35 AM Re: Political Discussion: One Thread Only!
slacktide Offline

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Registered: 03/19/02
Posts: 4263
I like bluefish \:D
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#397019 - 10/02/04 12:53 AM Re: Political Discussion: One Thread Only!
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Registered: 01/09/02
Posts: 6811
Zach wears plastic pants and Slacker has rancid beer with moth balls in it. Blaine likes to swim. Mike G likes fire. Pat yells at his fish. Frank supplies good cough medicine. KC worries me...sometimes. :rolleyes:

I can think of a few more...wonder which ones are Republicans and which ones are Democrats...hmmm, now that I think about it, I really dont give a rats ass! ;\) \:D

Gone fishin..........

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#397020 - 10/02/04 01:00 AM Re: Political Discussion: One Thread Only!
spin Offline

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Registered: 07/27/02
Posts: 579
Why I will vote for John Kerry for President - by John Eisenhower, son of President Dwight D. Eisenhower


by John Eisenhower / The Union Leader

THE Presidential election to be held this coming Nov. 2 will be one of extraordinary importance to the future of our nation. The outcome will determine whether this country will continue on the same path it has followed for the last 3½ years or whether it will return to a set of core domestic and foreign policy values that have been at the heart of what has made this country great.

Now more than ever, we voters will have to make cool judgments, unencumbered by habits of the past. Experts tell us that we tend to vote as our parents did or as we “always have.” We remained loyal to party labels. We cannot afford that luxury in the election of 2004. There are times when we must break with the past, and I believe this is one of them.

As son of a Republican President, Dwight D. Eisenhower, it is automatically expected by many that I am a Republican. For 50 years, through the election of 2000, I was. With the current administration’s decision to invade Iraq unilaterally, however, I changed my voter registration to independent, and barring some utterly unforeseen development, I intend to vote for the Democratic Presidential candidate, Sen. John Kerry.

The fact is that today’s “Republican” Party is one with which I am totally unfamiliar. To me, the word “Republican” has always been synonymous with the word “responsibility,” which has meant limiting our governmental obligations to those we can afford in human and financial terms. Today’s whopping budget deficit of some $440 billion does not meet that criterion.

Responsibility used to be observed in foreign affairs. That has meant respect for others. America, though recognized as the leader of the community of nations, has always acted as a part of it, not as a maverick separate from that community and at times insulting towards it. Leadership involves setting a direction and building consensus, not viewing other countries as practically devoid of significance. Recent developments indicate that the current Republican Party leadership has confused confident leadership with hubris and arrogance.

In the Middle East crisis of 1991, President George H.W. Bush marshaled world opinion through the United Nations before employing military force to free Kuwait from Saddam Hussein. Through negotiation he arranged for the action to be financed by all the industrialized nations, not just the United States. When Kuwait had been freed, President George H. W. Bush stayed within the United Nations mandate, aware of the dangers of occupying an entire nation.

Today many people are rightly concerned about our precious individual freedoms, our privacy, the basis of our democracy. Of course we must fight terrorism, but have we irresponsibly gone overboard in doing so? I wonder. In 1960, President Eisenhower told the Republican convention, “If ever we put any other value above (our) liberty, and above principle, we shall lose both.” I would appreciate hearing such warnings from the Republican Party of today.

The Republican Party I used to know placed heavy emphasis on fiscal responsibility, which included balancing the budget whenever the state of the economy allowed it to do so. The Eisenhower administration accomplished that difficult task three times during its eight years in office. It did not attain that remarkable achievement by cutting taxes for the rich. Republicans disliked taxes, of course, but the party accepted them as a necessary means of keep the nation’s financial structure sound.

The Republicans used to be deeply concerned for the middle class and small business. Today’s Republican leadership, while not solely accountable for the loss of American jobs, encourages it with its tax code and heads us in the direction of a society of very rich and very poor.

Sen. Kerry, in whom I am willing to place my trust, has demonstrated that he is courageous, sober, competent, and concerned with fighting the dangers associated with the widening socio-economic gap in this country. I will vote for him enthusiastically.

I celebrate, along with other Americans, the diversity of opinion in this country. But let it be based on careful thought. I urge everyone, Republicans and Democrats alike, to avoid voting for a ticket merely because it carries the label of the party of one’s parents or of our own ingrained habits.

John Eisenhower, son of President Dwight D. Eisenhower, served on the White House staff between October 1958 and the end of the Eisenhower administration. From 1961 to 1964 he assisted his father in writing “The White House Years,” his Presidential memoirs. He served as American ambassador to Belgium between 1969 and 1971. He is the author of nine books, largely on military subjects.
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#397021 - 10/02/04 01:19 AM Re: Political Discussion: One Thread Only!
kynan Offline
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Registered: 04/07/03
Posts: 1186
Mitch,

To quote you on Bush.


"I can relate to him when he talks"

I can too, a bit, when I'm drunk and stupid.

When I'm sober, I can relate to Kerry.

Time for a few cocktails and relating to the smirking stiff again.
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