I don't know why you guys are wondering who is telling the truth or not telling the truth.

They are BOTH liars pandering for votes, telling you what you what you want to hear. How anyone can think one is better than the other is sadly mistaken.

The most important thing in either party is staying in power or winning power. The American people are further down the list of priorities.

I don't know what the answer is, but having only two liars as the only choices sure doesn't seem like the answer to me...We should have more liars to chose from......Steve

Let me tell you a little bedtime story.

There is a lady by the name Mrs. Republican Party. She lives in a dysfunctional marriage with her abusive husband - Dubya. Dubya is a recovered alcoholic, but his brain is cooked. He has his moments of clarity, but mostly he is in a daze. He actually believes that he was chosen by God to lead his family. Like any battered wife Mrs. Republican Party understands that the marriage is a huge mistake. But she stays married to Dubya even though some real nice men in her Neighborhood (read USA) are available. Why?

Because even though Dubya didn't work a day in his life, somehow he always brings home the bacon (tax cuts). His Daddy is rich and has a lot of connections.

Because Dubya is a bully. He always swaggers around the neighborhood with a baseball bat, and people are afraid of him. Mrs. Dubya is one of these people.

Because Dubya is a handsome bugger, especially when he puts on his "flight suit" (which he bought at a garage sale).

Because she is scared to death of the gang of 'terrorists' in the neighborhood. Dubya swears that he will catch them 'dead or alive' and this is all she wants to hear. Deep in her hart she knows that he is a woos. He was AWOL when the Neighborhood was at war last time around. But he is a 'resolute' woos.

Because once or twice she tried to argue with Dubya, who is spending the family money like a drunken sailor. He beat her up. So now she borrows money from her neighbors to cover his debts. She calls it family 'deficit'.

Because like Dubya she believes in God. And according to God a good wife should stay at home and take care of the kids (read Republican voters). She should always turn the other cheek to her husband, ...according to God. She should not question her husband even if he is dragging the whole family to Hell.

Because the Republican kids ( read our dear Right Winger friends on the forum ) need a Father. They are so unruly - exactly like Dubya. Some people call them the NASCAR KIDS. They are a very ANGRY and NATIONALISTIC bunch. They believe it is not their idiot ex-drunk father who abused them. It is the ENEMY. The 'terrorists'. They think the neighbors (read other countries) are scum, especially those who are not afraid of their daddy.

So when Dubya tells the Kids to go beat up a neighbor named Saddam, they are happy to oblige. No matter that Dubya lied to them that Saddam hid a big 'NUCULAR' gun under his bed. The NASCAR kids like to kick A$$, especially if the other guy is 10" and 100 Lb smaller than they are. Now that some of the Saddam kids proved to be wily fighters, the NASCAR kids want to conscript the whole Neighborhood to fight their war with Saddam. So that NASCAR kids can join the Neighborhood Guard where they can hide from the war. Let somebody else's kids die for the Neighborhood.

So you see - Dubya, Mrs. Republican Party and their NASCAR Kids, like all dysfunctional families, will never admit their mistakes.

So the people of the Neighborhood called the USA should just vote them out. Or else, the whole Neighborhood is going down the tubes.

Val:

1. Kerry looked at EXACTLY the same intelligence reports as Bush. Nothing different. What conclusion did he make?

2. Bush admitted to having a drinking problem and stopped drinking on his own.
Is it your contention that someone who beat an addiction is morally corrupt or forever a "bad seed"? Please explain your position. I would love to hear it.

If you're gonna respond with an immature "story" or sorts, don't bother.

At least Bush fishes. As he has his own bass pond stocked with some nice bass. I saw the show with Roland Martin and thought Bush showed he could fish some. Something I bet Kerry never does. One more thing I put very little confidence in Conservation committees.

Perfect timing - Bush's lead is GONE! And, it's not coming back!

I can't wait till the next debate.

All the undecided voters will really begin to open their eyes and make up their minds.

President Kerry - Finally a statesman the whole world will look up to. Now America can once again return to be the leader of the free world.