Kevin, We'll find out after the election, as to which way the abstentee ballots went.

As to youth vote, it really is of consequence only in swing states. What the slack jawed do at Berkley and Columbia matters not, as both states are Kerry states. What the youth vote does at Villinova, Penn, Kent State, UNH, et al, WILL be of consequence. The draft scare tactic may pay off big time.

Still, there is always big registration amongst youth before an election, but not necessarily turnout. The seniors always vote, come hell or high water. Am I whistling through the graveyard?
Probably. We'll know soon enough. By December, me thinks.

Christ, I'd cut off my left testy right now, if only I did'nt have to watch Ron Reagan, Jr. on MSNBC! What a useless piece of human flotsam! I'd rather listen to James Carville!

Oh, and Deedee Myers isn't worth much, either. Listening to her stating that legal poll watchers are an "intimidation" is a retch inducing abomination!

Bait, the youth vote could be a factor, but alot of older people are voting for the first time as well 20,30, and 40's, not just college students and H.S. seniors. Christ, Oprah got in on the mix this year, I'm not sure who got the milf vote but I would assume it would lean towards Kerry. As far as that mess they call MSNBC,Ronny "i'm not my dad"Jr. looks fabulous flying through the air, ala Peter Pan in his tighty leotard, while Dee De Myers comes up short looking like a frumpy Christ Mathews in drag.

I've been relatively silent on this thread up till now, but it's election day so what the heck:

There once was a Pres named Dubya
Who often the wrong way rubbed ya
But he wasn't as scary
As the flopping John Kerry
So vote for Bush, and I'll lub ya

This pretty well sums things up unless you're one of those who keeps hitting the snooze button.

AMERICA NEEDS TO WAKE UP!

That's what we think we heard on the 11th of September 2001 (When more than 3,000 Americans were killed - AD) and maybe it was, but I think it should have been "Get Out of Bed!" In fact, I think the alarm clock has been buzzing since 1979 and w e have continued to hit the snooze button and roll over for a few more minutes of peaceful sleep since then.

It was a cool fall day in November 1979 in a country going through a religious and political upheaval when a group of Iranian students attacked and seized the American Embassy in Tehran. This seizure was an outright attack on American soil; it was an attack that held the world's most powerful country hostage and paralyzed a Presidency. The attack on this sovereign U. S. embassy set the stage for events to follow for the next 25 years.

America was still reeling from the aftermath of the Vietnam experience and had a serious threat from the Soviet Union when then, President Carter,had to do something. He chose to conduct a clandestine raid in the desert. The ill-fated mission ended in ruin, but stood as a symbol of America's inability to deal with terrorism.

America's military had been decimated and down sized/right sized since the end of the V ietnam War. A poorly trained, poorly equipped and poorly organized military was called on to execute a complex mission that was doomed from the start.

Shortly after the Tehran experience, Americans began to be kidnaped and killed throughout the Middle East. America could do little to protect her citizens living and working abroad. The attacks against US soil continued.

In April of 1983 a large vehicle packed with high explosives was driven into the US Embassy compound in Beirut When it explodes, it kills 63 people. The alarm went off again and America hit the Snooze Button once more.

Then just six short months later a large truck heavily laden down with over 2500 pounds of TNT smashed through the main gate of the US Marine Corps headquarters in Beirut and 241 US servicemen are killed. America mourns her dead and hit the Snooze Button once more.

Two months later in December 1983, another truck loaded with explosives is driven into the US Embassy in Kuwait, and America continues her slumber.

The following year, in September 1984, another van was driven into the gate of the US Embassy in Beirut and America slept.

Soon the terrorism spreads to Europe. In April 1985 a bomb explodes in a restaurant frequented by US soldiers in Madrid.

Then in August a Volkswagen loaded with explosives is driven into the main gate of the US Air Force Base at Rhein-Main, 22 are killed and the snooze alarm is buzzing louder and louder as US interests are continually attacked.

Fifty-nine days later a cruise ship, the Achille Lauro is hijacked and we watched as an American in a wheelchair is singled out of the passenger list and executed.

The terrorists then shift their tactics to bombing civilian airliners when they bomb TWA Flight 840 in April of 1986 that killed 4 and the most tragic bombing, Pan Am Flight 103 over Lockerbie, Scotland in 1988, killing 259.

Clinton treated these terrorist acts as c rimes; in fact we are still trying to bring these people to trial. These are acts of war.

The wake up alarm is getting louder and louder.
The terrorists decide to bring the fight to America. In January 1993, two CIA agents are shot and killed as they enter CIA headquarters in Langley, Virginia.

The following month, February 1993, a group of terrorists are arrested after a rented van packed with explosives is driven into the underground parking garage of the World Trade Center in New York City. Six people are killed and over 1000 are injured. Still this is a crime and not an act of war? The Snooze alarm is depressed again.

Then in November 1995 a car bomb explodes at a US military complex in Riyadh, Saudi Arabia, killing seven service men and women.

A few months later, in June of 1996, another truck bomb explodes only 35 yards from the US military compound in Dhahran, Saudi Arabia. It destroys the Khobar Towers, a US Air Force barracks, killing 19 and injuring over 500. The terrorists are getting braver and smarter as they see that America does not respond decisively.

They move to coordinate their attacks in a simultaneous attack on two US embassies in Kenya and Tanzania.. These attacks were planned with precision. They kill 224. America responds with cruise missile attacks and goes back to sleep.

The USS Cole was docked in the port of Aden, Yemen for refueling on 12 October 2000, when a small craft pulled along side the ship and exploded, killing 17 US Navy Sailors. Attacking a US War Ship is an act of war, but we sent the FBI to investigate the crime and went back to sleep.

And of course you know the events of 11 September 2001. Most Americans think this was the first attack against US soil or in America. How wrong they are. America has been under a constant attack since 1979 and we chose to hit the snooze alarm and roll over and go back to sleep.

In the news lately we have seen lot s of finger pointing from every high officials in government over what they knew and what they didn't know.
But if you've read the papers and paid a little attention I think you can see exactly what they knew. You don't have to be in the FBI or CIA or on the National Security Council to see the pattern that has been developing since 1979.

The President is right on when he says we are engaged in a war. I think we have been in a war for the past 25 years and it will continue until we as a people decide enough is enough. America needs to "Get out of Bed" and act decisively now. America has been changed forever.. We have to be ready to pay the price and make the sacrifice to ensure our way of life continues.

We cannot afford to keep hitting the snooze button again and again and roll over and go back to sleep.

After the attack on Pearl Harbor, Admiral Yamamoto said "... it seems all we have done is awakened a sleeping giant." This is the message we need to disseminate to terrorists around the world.

Support Our Troops and support President Bush for having the courage, political or militarily, to address what so many who preceded him didn't have the backbone to do both Democrat and Republican. This is not a political thing to be hashed over in an election year - this is an AMERICAN thing. This is about our Freedom and the Freedom of our children in years to come.

This is a copy of a speech given last month by US Navy Captain Ouimette, an Executive Officer at Naval Air Station, Pensacola, Florida. It is an accurate account of why we are in so much trouble today and why this action is so necessary.

"Point#3: Let me get this straight: the fact that we are in this "illegal" war in Iraq make us responsible for the deaths of "100,000 innocents", even those machine-gunned/RPG'ed/blown up/beheaded by the terrorists? "


That's NOT what I said... EVER!

Stop twisting other people's words and try sticking to the FACTS!

We are only responsible for those killed by OUR bombings, shootings, tank assaults, etc., and let us not forget those WRONGLY and UNJUSTLY imprisoned in Abu Grahib and ABUSED.

Again, we must not BECOME what we are trying to STOP!

If we do, then we have abandoned our principles and have simply replaced one MENACE with another. We can't CONDEMN them, and then BECOME them.

We have to WALK IT, LIKE WE TALK IT.