#1609496 - 12/04/1407:51 AM
Active Duty/Retired Military ID in place of Ammo card?
Tieg
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Registered: 01/30/04
Posts: 1513
Loc: SE CT
I'm referencing a thread I started in the hunting forum. Wondering if there is any truth to it or if Dicks and any other sporting good store is just lacking in training.
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#1609592 - 12/05/1408:36 AM
Re: Active Duty/Retired Military ID in place of Ammo card?
[Re: Tieg]
Tieg
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Registered: 01/30/04
Posts: 1513
Loc: SE CT
Yeah...but if your a resident of CT and don't have those orders...from what I read in the hunting thread that ENCON posted you're going to need the ammo cert or whatever cert that CT/Malloy wants you to purchase so you can "legally" buy a firearm or ammunition.
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#1609596 - 12/05/1409:04 AM
Re: Active Duty/Retired Military ID in place of Ammo card?
[Re: Tieg]
EnCon Police Moderator
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There is an exemption for the purchase of a long gun by military personnel, but they didn't put the same language in the ammunition certificate section.
Sec. 29-37a. Sale or delivery at retail of firearm other than pistol or revolver. Procedure. (a) No person, firm or corporation may deliver, at retail, any firearm, as defined in section 53a-3, other than a pistol or revolver, to any person unless such person makes application on a form prescribed and furnished by the Commissioner of Emergency Services and Public Protection, which shall be attached by the vendor to the federal sale or transfer document and filed and retained by the vendor for at least twenty years or until such vendor goes out of business. Such application shall be available for inspection during normal business hours by law enforcement officials. No sale or delivery of any firearm shall be made until the expiration of two weeks from the date of the application, and until the person, firm or corporation making such sale, delivery or transfer has insured that such application has been completed properly and has obtained an authorization number from the Commissioner of Emergency Services and Public Protection for such sale, delivery or transfer. The Department of Emergency Services and Public Protection shall make every effort, including performing the national instant criminal background check, to determine if the applicant is eligible to receive such firearm. If it is determined that the applicant is ineligible to receive such firearm, the Commissioner of Emergency Services and Public Protection shall immediately notify the person, firm or corporation to whom such application was made and no such firearm shall be sold or delivered to such applicant by such person, firm or corporation. When any firearm is delivered in connection with the sale or purchase, such firearm shall be enclosed in a package, the paper or wrapping of which shall be securely fastened, and no such firearm when delivered on any sale or purchase shall be loaded or contain any gunpowder or other explosive or any bullet, ball or shell.
(b) Upon the delivery of the firearm, the purchaser shall sign in triplicate a receipt for such firearm, which shall contain the name and address of such purchaser, the date of sale, caliber, make, model and manufacturer’s number and a general description thereof. Not later than twenty-four hours after such delivery, the vendor shall send by first class mail or electronically transfer one receipt to the Commissioner of Emergency Services and Public Protection and one receipt to the chief of police or, where there is no chief of police, the warden of the borough or the first selectman, of the town in which the purchaser resides, and shall retain one receipt, together with the original application, for at least five years. The waiting period specified in subsection (a) of this section during which delivery may not be made and the provisions of this subsection shall not apply to any federal marshal, parole officer or peace officer, or to the delivery at retail of (1) any firearm to a holder of a valid state permit to carry a pistol or revolver issued under the provisions of section 29-28 or a valid eligibility certificate issued under the provisions of section 29-36f, (2) any firearm to an active member of the armed forces of the United States or of any reserve component thereof, (3) any firearm to a holder of a valid hunting license issued pursuant to chapter 490, or (4) antique firearms. For the purposes of this section, “antique firearm” means any firearm which was manufactured in or before 1898 and any replica of such firearm, provided such replica is not designed or redesigned for using rimfire or conventional centerfire fixed ammunition except rimfire or conventional centerfire fixed ammunition which is no longer manufactured in the United States and not readily available in the ordinary channel of commercial trade.
(P.A. 90-340, S. 1; P.A. 99-212, S. 16; P.A. 00-99, S. 78, 154; P.A. 11-51, S. 134.)
History: P.A. 99-212 inserted Subsec. indicators, amended Subsec. (a) to replace provision requiring that application be made in triplicate and that one copy be mailed to the police chief of the municipality within which the applicant resides or, where there is no chief of police, the first selectman or warden of such municipality and that one copy be mailed to the Commissioner of Public Safety with provision requiring that vendor attach the application to the federal sale or transfer document and file and retain it for at least 20 years or until such vendor goes out of business, to add requirement that the application be available for inspection during normal business hours by law enforcement officials, to make the waiting period run from the date of the application rather than the date of the mailing of the copies of the application, to prohibit the sale or delivery until the transferor has insured that the application has been completed properly and has obtained an authorization number, to require the Department of Public Safety to make every effort, including performing the national instant criminal background check, to determine if the applicant is eligible to receive the firearm, to replace provision requiring “such municipal authority or said commissioner, having knowledge of the conviction of such applicant of a felony,” to immediately notify the transferor with provision requiring the Commissioner of Public Safety to immediately notify the transferor if “it is determined that the applicant is ineligible to receive such firearm”, and amended Subsec. (b) to delete the requirement that the receipt contain the occupation of the purchaser, to replace requirement that the vendor mail two of the triplicate receipts to the Commissioner of Public Safety and retain the other receipt with the application for at least 6 years with requirement that the vendor send by mail or electronically transfer one receipt to said commissioner and one receipt to the chief of police or, where there is no chief of police, the warden of the borough or the first selectman of the town in which the purchaser resides and retain one receipt together with the original application for at least 5 years, to make the provisions of Subsec. (b) not apply to any federal marshal, sheriff, parole officer or peace officer, to make the transfers enumerated in Subdivs. (1) to (4), inclusive, subject to the provisions of Subsec. (a) other than the waiting period, to include in Subdiv. (1) the holder of a valid eligibility certificate and to replace in Subdiv. (3) “long rifles or shotguns” with “any firearm”; P.A. 00-99 deleted reference to sheriff in Subsec. (b), effective December 1, 2000; pursuant to P.A. 11-51, “Commissioner of Public Safety” and “Department of Public Safety” were changed editorially by the Revisors to “Commissioner of Emergency Services and Public Protection” and “Department of Emergency Services and Public Protection”, respectively, effective July 1, 2011.
#1609908 - 12/08/1408:43 AM
Re: Active Duty/Retired Military ID in place of Ammo card?
[Re: Tieg]
Tieg
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Registered: 01/30/04
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Loc: SE CT
So if I read that right...active member of the armed forces of the United States or of any reserve component thereof....if I'm on inactive reserve I can buy a long gun without the cert?
By the way thank you for the extra research that you are taking the time to do...your time is valued and I appreciate it.
"I think of this war as it really is, not as the people at home imagine, with a hoorah! and a roar. It is very serious, very grim…" Manfred von Richthofen (aka The Red Baron)
#1609912 - 12/08/1408:48 AM
Re: Active Duty/Retired Military ID in place of Ammo card?
[Re: Tieg]
EnCon Police Moderator
Registered: 03/01/04
Posts: 3899
Originally Posted By: Tieg
So if I read that right...active member of the armed forces of the United States or of any reserve component thereof....if I'm on inactive reserve I can buy a long gun without the cert?
By the way thank you for the extra research that you are taking the time to do...your time is valued and I appreciate it.
Good question....I don't know. You're getting into areas that we don't deal with. The CSP Firearms unit is responsible for dealing with gun sales requirements. I would say that if you have a valid military ID showing that you are in a reserve unit then it should be OK. However, I don't know how it works with inactive reserve.
My suggestion is to call CSP Firearms at 860-685-8290 and run it by them.
#1610009 - 12/09/1407:54 AM
Re: Active Duty/Retired Military ID in place of Ammo card?
[Re: EnCon Police]
Tieg
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Registered: 01/30/04
Posts: 1513
Loc: SE CT
Originally Posted By: EnCon Police
Originally Posted By: Tieg
So if I read that right...active member of the armed forces of the United States or of any reserve component thereof....if I'm on inactive reserve I can buy a long gun without the cert?
By the way thank you for the extra research that you are taking the time to do...your time is valued and I appreciate it.
Good question....I don't know. You're getting into areas that we don't deal with. The CSP Firearms unit is responsible for dealing with gun sales requirements. I would say that if you have a valid military ID showing that you are in a reserve unit then it should be OK. However, I don't know how it works with inactive reserve.
My suggestion is to call CSP Firearms at 860-685-8290 and run it by them.
Will do...thank you very much
"I think of this war as it really is, not as the people at home imagine, with a hoorah! and a roar. It is very serious, very grim…" Manfred von Richthofen (aka The Red Baron)
#1610023 - 12/09/1409:49 AM
Re: Active Duty/Retired Military ID in place of Ammo card?
[Re: Tieg]
Jim Curto
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Registered: 01/15/05
Posts: 458
Loc: Wilton, CT
Good info. I'm active duty and have been trying to get up to Middletown to submit my paperwork for ammo and long gun. Another question is if my Small Arms Qualifier certification is valid for hand gun or long gun licensing. This certification is for range instruction, practical pistol course, armory access & issue. The cert includes hand gun, M16, & Shotgun.I also have the range firing reports for all three. Thanks for any info.