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#1215524 - 05/25/10 04:36 PM Re: Got a new job! [Re: jonh]
swwind Offline

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Originally Posted By: jon h.
This is getting ridiculous. 45 days in


If tomorrow fails - we could be looking at another 90. Can anyone imagine that ?

I agree - why we don't have the Navy assets in place is a mystery to me.

I think the problem is that in terms of expertice, the assets of BP, TransOcean, Mobil, etc are probably better in terms of stopping the leak. They should deploy the Navy & National Gaurd to try to protect the coastlines as much as possible.

The secretary of Energy was on televison last night and he did not seem optimistic that the "top kill" would work and there are risks that the attempt could backfire and make the leak larger. Thad Allen (USCG) the PIC for the government was equally pesimistic about what other alternatives would / could be tried if the Feds were to take charge of trying to stop the leak.

""Happy Talk" . . . . . Because it has worked so well thus far"

"It is not necessary to change; survival is not mandatory" - Edward Deming

"Unless we start to focus everything on this, our targets will soon be out of reach" - Greta Thunberg January 2020

"I spent most of my dough on booze, broads and boats and the rest I wasted" - Elmore Leonard.

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#1215559 - 05/25/10 06:55 PM Re: Got a new job! [Re: swwind]
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Registered: 06/04/03
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we are so screwed. big oil has dicked us over so hard on this, and where the hell is the fix?

we can put a man on the moon, but cant stop an oil leak?

i dont see this stopping this year....
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#1215657 - 05/26/10 12:15 AM Re: Got a new job! [Re: O-BASS]
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Registered: 03/12/06
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I can't even fathom this not stopping sometime soon. The amount of damage that has already been done is something I have a hard time comprehending.

This rig had 3 consecutive tests fail, shut down operations for 40 minutes, and then resumed operations. I doubt an executive called out to the rig and forced operations to resume. I've got to believe that was a local decision.

The executives are, however, resposnible for not ensuring that a disaster like this would be able to be resolved in a timely manner. I am sure they had their safety and risk representatives claiming that they could handle things of this nature, but the responsibilty for followup should fall on the higher levels of management's shoulders.

The jackass that called for operations to resume, despite the safety test failures, really needs to be hung high.

I don't know how BP is expecting to be able to clean this up as they claim they will- in the end we will foot the bill for this too.
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#1215697 - 05/26/10 01:40 AM Re: Got a new job! [Re: swwind]
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Registered: 09/29/08
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This maybe a stupid question but why couldn't astronauts go down there in space suits and cap that effing thing? They train in water and do repairs in outerspace. Why can't they do something down on the ocean floor?


Edited by Climber (05/26/10 01:40 AM)
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#1215916 - 05/26/10 06:42 PM Re: Got a new job! [Re: Climber]
Firefighter Skippy Offline

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Registered: 04/28/02
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Space is a vacuum. Totally different type of pressure.

Sandy

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#1215944 - 05/26/10 07:53 PM Re: Got a new job! [Re: Firefighter Skippy]
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That makes sense.
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#1215977 - 05/26/10 10:43 PM Re: Got a new job! [Re: Climber]
swwind Offline

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Top Kill effort underway now.

On behalf of our brother fishermen (and everyone) in the gulf - keep your fingers crossed and dare I say pray this works !

""Happy Talk" . . . . . Because it has worked so well thus far"

"It is not necessary to change; survival is not mandatory" - Edward Deming

"Unless we start to focus everything on this, our targets will soon be out of reach" - Greta Thunberg January 2020

"I spent most of my dough on booze, broads and boats and the rest I wasted" - Elmore Leonard.

Team Man Made Climate Change is Real.

"Such change demands on our part a serious and responsible recognition not only of the kind of world we may be leaving to our children, but also to the millions of people living under a system which has overlooked them" - Pope Francis September 2015
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#1216039 - 05/27/10 01:41 AM Re: Got a new job! [Re: swwind]
natedog Offline
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Registered: 10/21/04
Posts: 1991
Loc: Old Saybrook, CT
I hope so...whats left to try, how soon before oil comes up the gulf stream and ends up here?

Old Saybrook Firefighter
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#1216352 - 05/28/10 01:22 AM Re: Spill update and fishing report [Re: Rhino4]
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#1216354 - 05/28/10 01:25 AM Re: Spill update and fishing report [Re: Mitch P.]
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Hoop, thanks for the updates from ground zero.
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