#1188564 - 03/02/1001:46 PM
Re: Confused.......EVEN MORE .... ???Just what is RECIPROCITY???
[Re: John from Madison CT]
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Just a heads up for those of you who decide to chance it and not get a license. If you are arrested and convicted/pay a fine, your license (hunting and fishing) will be suspended for 1 year. License Suspension info
I already have a license and my son will get what is necessary but neither Connecticut or New York can/will answer my question which is:
1. My question to you:I have a son that lives in Ma and he and we fish out of Niantic. We occasionally fish the Race, the Sluice, and maybe the south side of Fishers Island. Most fishing is in Ct waters.
What is the best thing for him to do to be legal? Do I need a NY license?
Sure is complicated these day.......ugh!
An old fisherman getting confused and have never violated anything and do not want to. Thanks in advance.
You suggested I contact New York so............
2. This is what I asked New York DEP
3/1/2010 2:38 PM >>> I have a Connecticut salt water license and my son lives in Mass and plans to get a Connecticut non resident license for Connectucut. We fish out of Niantic Bay and launch there. . We occasionally fish the Race, the Sluice, and maybe the south side of Fishers Island or Plum Island. Most fishing is in Ct waters.
What is the best thing for him to do to be legal in your waters? Is he covered by the Connectucut License?
Do I need a NY license or does my Connectucut one take care of that.
Just how far out can I go. Is there something I can refer to so I can stay legal?
Many thanks in advance.
The response from New York I shared earlier......
Are there any reciprocal license agreements with other states where marine waters form boundaries with other states? Yes, in certain waters, if a state grants New York recreational marine fishing license holders fishing privileges in that state's portion of the boundary water(s), then New York grants appropriately licensed anglers from that state the privilege to fish in the New York portion of the boundary water(s) without securing a New York recreational marine fishing license:
Connecticut: those parts of Long Island Sound lying between New York and Connecticut New Jersey: those parts of New York Harbor, Hudson River, Kill Van Kull, Arthur Kill, Raritan Bay, and Atlantic Ocean lying between New Jersey and New York, and Rhode Island: those parts of Long Island Sound, Block Island Sound and the Atlantic Ocean lying between Rhode Island and New York.
New Question:Are the three states going to get together and share a map so we know what to do. The only thing I know from the responses is I will be foreced to get a New York license as well and plan to do that till things get clarified.
It sure would be helpful and seems like something that ought to be shared before we start the season. I have been left to interpret it as best I can and cannot afford legal counsel.
Many thanks for trying .......any suggestion who I could contact or should contact to get this reasonable request answered I really think earlier comments about not getting license comes from confusion and frustration. Thank Heavens I am a senior and if I understand things right I will get NY license non resident for the 15 bucks out of pocket but my son has to pay 60 to CT and 15 to New York. If he buys a NY license will Connecticut honor it?
Whew....Gone fishing and you will hear no more frustration from me......Carl
#1188903 - 03/03/1012:10 PM
Re: Confused.......EVEN MORE .... ???Just what is RECIPROCITY???
[Re: blackfish]
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If you are in NY's portion of LIS with a CT marine license you are good to go. Once you go outside of LIS (past the Race, into Block Island Sound, etc., then you have to comply with that individual state's requirements for licensing. As you pointed out, to fish past the Race/south side of Long Island, etc., you need a NY license. RI is only going with the Federal Registry (the last I heard), so I don't know if they will accept a CT marine license or not. I know that we do not accept the Federal registry permit in CT waters so there is no reciprocity for that type of permit. Our regulation is specifically worded. Once MA, ME, NH and RI go with their own version of marine licenses, if their regulation/statute offers reciprocity to CT anglers who hold a marine license our regulation automatically kicks in and offers their marine license holders reciprocal fishing privileges.
As far as a map goes, it's the state border on the water that defines which license is required.
Here's the exact wording from the public act:
PA 09-173 Sec. 6. Section 26-46 of the general statutes is repealed and the following is substituted in lieu thereof (Effective June 15, 2009):
(a) If and when the state of New York, the state of Massachusetts or the state of Rhode Island enacts a similar law granting reciprocal privileges to residents of this state, any person who holds a license to fish in inland waters in the state of New York, the state of Massachusetts or the state of Rhode Island may fish in inland waters lying partly in this state and partly in such adjoining state, or in such waters as negotiated by the Commissioner of Environmental Protection of this state and any similar authority in such adjoining state, without a nonresident inland waters license to fish as required by this chapter, [; ] provided such nonresidents shall be subject to all other provisions of the statutes and the regulations of the commissioner relating to fishing in lakes and ponds.
(b) If and when the state of New York, the state of Massachusetts, the state of New Hampshire, the state of Maine or the state of Rhode Island enacts a similar law granting reciprocal privileges to residents of this state, any nonresident who holds a marine waters fishing license issued by one of said states having such reciprocal privileges may fish in the marine district or land marine species in Connecticut and shall not be required to purchase a Connecticut nonresident marine waters fishing license. Such nonresidents shall be subject to all other provisions of the statutes and the regulations of the commissioner relating to fishing in the marine district.
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