Flagger, conventional wisdom, including my own, has Hillary as the presumptive Dem nominee in '08. How this will play out with an electorate seemingly yearning for more moderate Democrats, remains to be seen. Same old, same old, probably won't past muster.

If the new Senator from Colorado, Salazar, is as moderate/conservative as he lays claim to be; he may have a shot if he proves himself centrist. As a Hispanic he could have the mass appeal, although at this time, less than 24 hours post-"game", it is all conjecture.

A Hillary Clinton, moving to the center for the election, just sets the Dem's up for more of the same.

Fishie, Yer a poet! Do ya' know it? ;\)

My off the cuff contribution:

There once was a man from the Mass
Who had oddles and oddles of cash
Still, he came from the left
And was viewed as bereft
So Bushie kicked him in the azz!

"I think, that all right-thinking people, are sick and tired of being told that they are sick and tired of being sick and tired. I, for one, am not. And I'm sick and tired of being told that I am!"