Baitrunner I meant what I said because what they really went after was double stacked 9 mm. hand guns which left us with John Browning's 1911's 7 and 1.(or clones there of)they knew the old timers would never go along with banning them .But if I had my drouthers(spelling) I much rather take my chances getting hit with a 9 then a 45.All it did was force the unwilling to carry better ballistics.