I find you all very bright and I enjoy both sides and the passion expressed. But I need some enlightenment (that will require a pause from the Liberal vs Right wing discussion): it appears that trying to fight terrorism with traditional warfare doesn't work. Innocents are killed, the media attention is what the terorists want(as it creates more justification for the muslim anti-western positions), each terrorist that dies seems to result in the recruitment of many more, there is nobody to negotiate with, and there appears to be no "traditional" solution. I mean, you can't nuke the whole country of Iraq. To stem what seems to be an exponential increase in the number of terrorists, any one got any ideas how to diffuse all this anti-western hate that seems to fuel this growth of terrorism?