WOW!I finally caught up with all the posts.About last nights debate,after 30mins of it could you even tell if that pile of dead meat they were beating started out as a horse?Some of the"facts" that are so widely quoted by both sides were so full of omissions and distortions it was laughable.Any inteligent individual should be able to see through them.JFM,you called him a communist for wanting a government that is fair and responsive to all individuals regardless of the thickness of ones wallet?Childish cartoons,name calling and questioning ones patriotism because you dont agree with them is a sign of a weak arguement.