Henry L,

You know the neo-cons are desperate when they:

A.) equate you to terrorists

B.) compare the Constitutionally protected exercise of one's free speech, in order to protest immoral acts of war undertaken by a Supreme Court appointed, make-believe President, with "treasonous acts"

C.) denounce anyone who disagrees with them as traitors.

I am sure glad that there are reasonable VOTERS out on the water like Spunfisher, Spin, Val, Jimmy, Den, I've Got a Huge Dinghy, Kevin B, Gerg, Naugy Joe, Dave, Kynan, Flag-Up, Perchbutt, Pete128, CatchnRelease... I apologize if I have overlooked or forgotten anyone.

(And BTW, judging from Mitch's remarks, Baitrunner isn't really ON the water! :p )

If neo-cons fished like they conduct foreign affairs, there wouldn't be any fish left anywhere! They would have long since killed them all! (and all, no doubt, with bunker busters and daisy cutters!)

(And I have been known to cheer for a good fish that beat me!)


If the US gave Iraq those weapons, then why would they condemn the attack?

Are you kidding? Do you really expect the U.S. Government to be consistent in its foreign affairs, particularly when there is a Republikan President involved?

Don't you realize that we have propped up and/or subsequently deposed numerous evil dictatorships in recent history, often resulting in huge voids of legitimate authority, civil war, and gross instability?; Chile, Iran, Iraq, the Taliban, Saudi Arabia, Vietnam, the Phillipines, Panama...

Do you not know that we (CIA) trained Osama Bin Laden and gave him and his Afghan rebels 3 billion dollars?!?

First, who else is to blame FIRST for our FIRST strike against a sovreign nation which has committed no act of war against us? Who else should we blame for our unjust war in Iraq? Bin Laden? Hey, there's our excuse! It's all Bin Laden's fault! He blew up our towers, so we attacked Iraq! That makes sense! :rolleyes:

Second, if we were at war under a Democratic Presidency, and Republicans were whining and protesting in the streets blaming America first, and I heard you calling your own party "Treasonous", I would be the FIRST to defend their right to free speech! And denounce YOU as a traitor for trying to undo the rights, freedoms, and protections provided under our Constitution! YOU STILL DON'T GET IT!

Whatever happened to "I may not agree with what you are saying but would defend to the death your right to say it." ?

No war is ever worth even fighting if along the way we sacrifice, lose, or surrender even ONE of those RIGHTS guaranteed by the Constitution. THAT is what we fight for! THE CONSTITUTION! THAT'S WHAT IT'S ALL ABOUT: THE CONSTITUTION! That's what we want to share with the rest of the world, the rights, freedoms, and protections that we hold in such high regard. That is what FREEDOM is all about! You cannot defend freedom or try to bring it to other countries, while simultaneously depriving others here or elsewhere of theirs. You end up defeating your very purpose!

What part of this do you neo-cons NOT GET!!


The reason you never cried when Clinton intervened in Kosovo, Bosnia, Iraq, Sudan, or Afghanistan, is you saw a just cause and a legitimate action. When he retreated from Somalia you likewise agreed that he was doing the right thing under the circumstances.

Otherwise, if you remained silent out of some misplaced sense of loyalty, yet felt strongly that he was wrong, THEN YOU ARE NOT DOING YOUR JOB AS AN AMERICAN CITIZEN AND HAVE NO ONE TO BLAME BUT YOURSELF! If that is the case, then shame on you!